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    Thanks to this community for your ideas, solutions, and suggestions!

    The course I am building needs to track user completion only through an acknowledgement statement (the statement says, basically, that the user is completing the course independently and without assistance from anyone else). We would like to capture the user acknowledgement through a simple text entry: type your name here, enter the date, submit the form.

    I have the acknowledgement set as a test section and have tried several ways to record completion but am constantly getting errors. One way I have tried is to use a question element for name entry, with an entry field for the user to type his/her name, followed by another question element for the date entry. Neither passes – when I try to type anything in either field (including pressing the shift key!), the error appears, “You must choose an answer to continue.”

    Another way was to create a text box with an action linked to a simple checkbox (enter your name, then click the box to allow you to submit the form). That didn’t even get off the launchpad, either.

    Any ideas would be appreciated. We are really looking for the easiest way to make the user acknowledge that he or she has read the conditions listed on the page (read text) and then submit his/her name as a way to track that (enter name, submit page/form).

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    Hi there – Is the course being launched from an LMS? I have a few easy approaches in mind, but am wondering what you need to track vs what’s automatically tracked by the LMS.

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    We have used something similar to your “another way” for a few years now with complete success. Because not all of our employees have access to the business Intranet, we provide two ways for some mandatory training. One method is we mail disks to their home with an affirmation sheet that they can fill out and return in a self addressed and post metered envelope. We also include in this mailing a link to a simple online one page affirmation that they can log into our LMS and complete online if they prefer (most do because they will get compensated faster). This is what I think you are looking to accomplish.

    We also have the entire course online for those who want to complete it that way. Both online methods record compliance in the LMS.

    For the returned hard copies, we wrote a small program that allows one of our administrative assistants to quickly enter the pertinent information that gets added to the LMS database same as if it were completed online (we do include a flag, however, that allows us to go back and tell which method was used).

    The online affirmation was worded by our legal department and basically says that they have completed the training, have no questions and will comply with contents. To accomplish this you only need a single page with a checkbox and some actions. Add a button (exit works great) that when clicked will first check to see if the checkbox is empty, if it is not (meaning it is checked) then send complete to lms and exit. We also added a warning if exit is pressed with the checkbox empty; it asks them if they are sure they want to exit without completing the training. If they answer yes, the lesson closes without marking their compliance.

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    Laura – The course will be delivered via a cloud-based LMS that we are just starting to use (Journey, through a company called Red Vector). In the same way as Darrel’s reply describes, contractors will be completing the course before showing up to work (it’s a precondition to their engagement here) and the completions will be tracked and reported weekly – so Person A can show up at one of several locations and do the work.

    There are a few considerations for not trying to use the LMS in a more conventional manner (data in, reported data out). Mostly though, it’s externally hosted – and so while we can access reporting and so forth for employees (part of the agreement), it’s another matter to do so for contractors, many of whom may be only one-time engagements (and we don’t want to use our storage to keep their records longer than we need to). And we can’t have the contractors use our internal LMS (a Peoplesoft database) since they aren’t employees. Having a cloud-based externally hosted location makes a lot of sense in this situation.

    Hope this helps to guide your thinking, Laura!

    Darrel – Your solution is very much what we are wanting to use here. I’ll go back and give it a whirl (let’s just hope it’s not a frog in a blender…).

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    I’ve implemented something similar by just having a one-question test, with correct answer “I agree” and incorrect answer “I do not agree.” If they fail the test, they aren’t compliant and their managers are directed to follow up.

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    Thanks Carl! This may be a good solution to fall back on!

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    @lsilver

    I like Carl’s approach. The date and name should automatically be tracked by the LMS, so all you need is the acknowledgement. You can use a test question. Or you can skip a test entirely, and set up a conditional action to modify the AICC_Score variable to 100 IF the user selects a specific button or form element.

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    @timk

    This could be done with a single checkbox, a form element not a question and one action:

    On: Select / Change
    Action: Modify variable
    Target: AICC_Lesson_Status
    Type: Set
    Value: completed

    IF “Checkbox_0001” Equal to “on”

    ELSE

    Action: Modify variable
    Target: AICC_Lesson_Status
    Type: Set
    Value: incomplete

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    <great_relief_and_stress_reduction>Whew! These are terrific! THANK YOU!!</great_relief_and_stress_reduction>

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    Hey Tim, Long time. Hope all is well. This is EXACTLY what we did. I probably even got the idea from you originally..lol.

    Be well.

     

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    One advantage of the pass/fail idea: in most LMS’s, if someone fails a test their manager is immediately notified, which is what you want in a compliance situation.

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    Correct, Carl – and if the users were employees (or even longer-term contractors, which some of them may be), the management reporting link is precisely what we would want. In our corporate LMS, in fact, that’s one of the more (popular? well-known?) features: it generates a weekly/monthly/quarterly notification “naughty list” that is the bane of every leader’s reporting structure. But in this case, with the limited admin access (keeps too many cooks out of the kitchen) and the unknown contractor organizations (we only know the names of the assigned contractors and their respective employers: 6 from Company A, 12 from Company B, and so on), the asynchronous data collection is what we are wanting.
    Additionally, the separate LMS can manage external logins much more easily than our internal system does, and in fact is under consideration for adoption by the enterprise. But I digress.
    The module is now built and staged for loading to the LMS later this week by the admins – so we’ll know next week whether or not the frogs survived the blender.

    Thanks again, y’all!

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    @timk

    Of course you could set the status to “passed” or “failed” the same way. You might also add an action to modify the score.

    Thanks Darrel, and likewise. It’s good to see you around from time to time (I’ve been here all the time 😉

    Tim

    P.S. Frogs can be very tough, unless hit by a car…

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