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    @benpitman 63548 wrote:

    Seems strange to me that trivantis did not take the route that PowerPoint can take. You can take an entire PowerPoint and save it to a single HTML file that is viewable from a browser. I’ve never tried to hack into one and don’t know whether they are password-protected but it sure would seem a logical option if they want to publish everything as HTML. There are some complications with the differences between an executable and HTML. At one time I counted over 40 of them half of them were actions and behavior in the other half were the way things looked.

    The whole idea of changing how EXE works between Lectora 11 and 12 was to make sure there are NO differences between Lectora in browser and Lectora in EXE. Because the new EXE is a stripped-down browser. I think it was a very smart move. The only thing it needs is the ability to package all of the files into the EXE and it’ll work just as everyone wants it to, covering all bases and scenarios.

    Also, I’m not really sure PowerPoint does what you describe. “Save as html” might be discontinued: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Discontinued-or-changed-features-in-PowerPoint-2013-5da4d3d4-85ef-4e74-8e9e-511ba59482d5

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    The used to be to file formats, HTML, and something called single file HTML. Neither one of them are available anymore. Bummer!

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    @benpitman 63564 wrote:

    The used to be to file formats, HTML, and something called single file HTML. Neither one of them are available anymore. Bummer!

    Agreed! If Microsoft added “publish to HTML” and basic SCORM support to PowerPoint, at least half the e-learning tools would perish.

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    Totally agree with this thread, we need to put out content in a way so that our assets are protected – i have a lot of audio and video which cannot be screen-shoted, please bring back the publish to exe or if your so insistent on the current method then some way of protecting content.

    Shouldnt of upgraded!!

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    Not only am I unhappy with the disppearance of the EXE publish format (I used that format quite often for all of the reasons mentioned) but my graphics do not display when I publish my course. Two of us on version 12 have the same issue and the others on version 11 are doing just fine. I want version 11 back.

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    @martink 63096 wrote:

    For us, removing the EXE export functionality is the main criteria why we can’t upgrade to v12 at the moment.

    Why are we not satisfied with the export to offline function?
    We have tested the new export to offline function with the v12 demo version, but we are not satisfied because of the following reasons:

    • Protection of unintended sharing – The sub folder contains all files in an unencrypted format – this makes it easier for our users to “steal” content and re-distribute it outside our controlled environment. Of course you have been able to take a screenshot or record your screen to get a video also with the EXE, but the effort was much higher, so chances are big that most people didn’t do that. Now you can browse through the whole folder and easily copy, open or even modify all the files. A curious user could try to find the correct answers of the knowledge test within these files for example.
    • Content protection – We have not found the option to password protect the course. In the EXE version it was possible to set a password for each course – which ensured that the users were aware of the password before they were able to access the course.
    • Usability – The publish to offline function creates a shortcut for starting the course + a folder which contains all the files (similar as in the SCORM version with images, files …) – this makes it harder to share and distribute and could potentially confuse our users since it has now a different format

    Why do we need an offline option as well as a SCORM version?

    • Our trainees travel a lot – often without any or sometimes with a very slow internet connection. So what they often do is that they download the EXE and complete the training whenever they want to.
    • The EXE is very robust – we noticed that it is really robust and almost independent of the client’s configuration since you don’t have a diverse browser landscape which you need to care about.
    • Page load times – Since you download the whole course at once you don’t have to load further pages after the initial download.

    My personal recommendations:

    • Short term – Please think about bringing back the EXE functionality so users can decide if they want to use the old EXE export or the new publish to offline version.
    • Long term – If the publish to offline version should replace EXE completly (which I can understand since EXE is Windows only and also has some other disadvantages) please think about the points mentioned above.

    Please see the mentioned points as constructive user feedback – I hope it helps.

    Best regards,
    Martin

    Excellent rundown! May I suggest that you also post this in the Suggestions forum, as I think the developers are more likely to look there for ideas for future updates?

    P.S. Is anyone else having trouble typing in this forum? I’m using IE 11 and found that many of my keystrokes weren’t registering…I had to keep going back and fixing things and eventually opted to type this message in Notepad and then just paste it in here! I would have thought that finally upgrading from IE 8 to IE 11 would have meant that I didn’t have to put up with these kinds of issues on the forum anymore!

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    Thanks everyone for your sharing your thoughts on this thread – please know we’re definitely listening to you.

    I wanted to post a workaround for creating an EXE file to get your feedback. We’re looking into putting a better solution in place in a future release, but this worked well for me.

    In short, you can use 7-Zip and 7-Zip SFX maker to create an EXE file from your published files. 7-Zip is an open source zip program, and the 7-Zip SFX maker program is free to use.

    You can follow the steps to create the EXE file here: http://goo.gl/ARsXsz

    Check it out and let me know what you think!

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    7-Zip is not an option for me as I do not have administrator capability and am not sure I could get permissino to install unknown software on my machine. My current work around is to publish off line, rename the Lectora Viewer to Lesson 1 for example, then copy the viewer and content file into a folder I created with the same name. The problem is people need to open the folder then click the viewer instead of just opening the exe file.

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    What I’ve done in the past for vendors who weren’t working inside our firewall and, therefore, couldn’t access Lectora e-courses on the LMS, was to publish the course to HTML (after taking out any SCORM-related stuff), then copy the files onto some kind of portable media (CD, USB drive, etc.), then instruct them to just double-click on the index.html file to launch the course. (Sometimes I would rename the “index.html” file to something more course-specific.)

    I liked this approach better than publishing to EXE, since courses created for HTML/SCORM use don’t necessarily play/look the same in a native-Lectora/EXE format.

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    @tecocat 63810 wrote:

    What I’ve done in the past for vendors who weren’t working inside our firewall and, therefore, couldn’t access Lectora e-courses on the LMS, was to publish the course to HTML (after taking out any SCORM-related stuff), then copy the files onto some kind of portable media (CD, USB drive, etc.), then instruct them to just double-click on the index.html file to launch the course. (Sometimes I would rename the “index.html” file to something more course-specific.)

    I liked this approach better than publishing to EXE, since courses created for HTML/SCORM use don’t necessarily play/look the same in a native-Lectora/EXE format.

    So now Lectora basically took your approach (distribute HTML offline) and also made sure that a proper browser is included with the files, too. The viewer.exe is basically Chrome in disguise. They also freed an enormous amount of dev resources because they do not need to support the “native Lectora/Exe format” any more.

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    @ssneg 63811 wrote:

    So now Lectora basically took your approach (distribute HTML offline) and also made sure that a proper browser is included with the files, too. The viewer.exe is basically Chrome in disguise. They also freed an enormous amount of dev resources because they do not need to support the “native Lectora/Exe format” any more.

    Hmmm… So, maybe if they could find a way of adding some “protections” to it (like Martin wanted), it could be a viable alternative?

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    In case anyone’s curious, those two prior posts are just 2 of 39 Russian spam posts on the Lectora Forums from this person. They are for some kind smoking/anti-smoking related product, the name of which I’ll refrain from including, so as not to encourage them.

    I’ve reported these two posts.

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    Hi,
    does anyone know the latest status/behavior of the “publish to offline” method in the latest updates of v12?

    Best regards,
    Martin

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    I don’t think it changed. It works great but the approach (and limitations that come with it) is still the same.

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    In 12.1 exe is back!! Go to publish offline and then select the exe option (it becomes available after checking a checkbox)

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